The Phoneless Vietnamese

It's Friday. I finished work (at home) and head out towards my daygame route located in the busiest part of KL. But to get to there I had to walk through a long stretch of a crowded entertainment district between my house and the city center. 

As I was walking there, I spotted a girl (mid-thirties) average looking, dressed in a light blue shirt and a black jeans. She was carrying an empty 1 water bottle, and was waving it along with her arm. She passed by me and I turned and decided to approach. 

I followed her a bit but then she passed by a light pole, and hit it hard with the bottle! as if she wanted to settle a score with the poor metal. It was so loud that everyone around looked at her.

I stopped on my track and said "nope" to myself. As a someone who used to daygame exclusively inside malls, I was kind of very cautious approaching in the streets.

I turned back and continued on my way, then stopped and thought to myself... "she is cute", then I was like "maybe she works in the bars here". Then decided to turn back again and look for her. 

Luckily she didn't wander too far as she went briefly inside a convenient store and came out with a cigarette pack. I came closer and she cross the street. I crossed and waited for some opening then walked beside her and opened with my typical opener, and slowly stopped.

She stopped immediately.

Me: excuse me.

Her: *in a very heavy Vietnamese accent* Yes. What you want? 

She seemed more curious than angry, and that kinda of put me at ease. But (as usual) I was  calm and composed

Me: I saw you walking by....

Opened up my arms in a slightly wide (welcoming) gesture.

Me: You look very cute.... and very angry.

She laughed and hooked quite immediately. She asked my name and where I'm from. And a had a brief normal chat with her.

She interrupted me mid convo and asked if we can walk together.

Girls rarely do this, and in the past those that did exhibited more of masculine personality. 

In this case, I didn't mind walking with her as she seemed quite comfortable with me.

I walked with her for 1 or 2 minutes. Then I realized there was a temple to my right and she said she was heading there. I asked if she was going in to pray and she confirmed. 

I decided to close at this point and ask for her number.

By then she was fully facing me.

Then I paused for a second and did what I had no balls to do in my entire life. 

My decision to do what I did was not out of curiosity, although partly it was, but rather from... an evolutionary pressure to pass on my genes. After a miserable streaks of dates to nowhere.

Me: Can I tell you something?

Her: Yes?

Me: But promise me if I tell you, you wouldn't beat me with this empty bottle you still carrying.

Her: hahaha no la

I put my hand on her left shoulder and leaned in to whisper. 

Given her english level, I decided to go with simple words.

Me: I wanna fuck you.... very hard!

Her: hahahahahahahha you naughty boy

I was quite shocked with her response and, but I didn't wait a second!

I decided to capitalize on the moment. I pulled her in, in gentle half-hug and kissed her on the top of her forehead.

It was like 30 second of an absolute shared joy between us. As if she was waiting her entire life to hear those unholy words.

I continued with the closing.

But then she told me she lost her phone. I asked if she has IG. She said no.

Then she reached for her handbag and pulled out... her passport.

She turned few pages and stopped and looked at me and asked me what's your number.

I give her mine and to my shock, she started writing it on a page on her passport, underneath 2 other numbers.

Later she told me she keep important numbers (including that of her family members) in her passport as she carries it with her everywhere.

She told me she will call me.

She had a very thick Vietnamese accent and I kind had hard time understanding 30% of what she was saying. But I have the habit of repeating what other people say to confirm if it's what they mean, so that helped in a way.

I carried on with my session and did 2 more sets.

About 1 hour later, as I was heading to TRX area, my smartwatch started vibrating signalling an incoming call. I picked it up. And it was her. 

She was asking where I was. I told I was near where we met.

She asked if I want to meet up. I agreed.

After hanging up, I didn't think much of where she got the phone. I thought can be her friend, colleague, whatever.

But curious as I was, I just wanted to check ... the whatsapp profile.

It was a picture of a dude!

But the profile status "Hi there! I'm using whatsapp" was in Vietnamese. So that kinda put me at ease.

But again I thought to myself, could be she is calling from her friend's phone.

I headed to where she said she was.

I called her again when I got there but this time, I struggled a bit to understand what she was saying. Damn vietanmese accent!!!! I just hang up. And thought for a minute. Then I decided to send a photo of a nearby location to whatsapp. I recieved a photo from the number, but couldn't make out the landmark or the shop signs. So I asked her to send her location.

I received the location and walked there which was quite close to where a I was.

Then received a photo taken from INSIDE a restaurant. When I reached the place, I managed to pinpoint where the photo was taken from, there was a table there, and there was a skinny dude was sitting there, and my girl is no where to be seen. 

The guy looked up and I looked at him and then she came from inside the restaurant and greeted me. She changed her outfit and to a more feminine dress (but modest a bit). She also put makeup and hand two stickers of a kitty and a "hello" text (from halloween I suppose) on her cheeks, making her look even more cute.

She introduced me to guy sitting on the the table, which turned out to be her brother.

He was quite friendly and he works in a nearby restaurant. 

Anyway, I sat and she ordered my drink, orange juice. then looked at me with a seductive look and, at the same as she was talking to me, she was stroking my feet with hers and I started doing the same. Feet fucking each other while looking very innocent above the table.

After I finished my drink 10-15 mins later. She told her brother something and he nodded. And asked me "let's go baby".

We walked, the exact same path I was walking as I was trying to approach her, and we locked fingers on the way, I suggested her to come to my place for a movie. She asked where I stay, and told her, nearby.

She agreed.

It was a hilly way up to my place. KL is just full of damn hill as if the entire city built on a mountain. We arrived at my place and after we entered the elevator, she pull me in for a hug, and lefted her chin up towards me, and we started making out passionately all the way to the 16th floor.

We entered the apartment and I started the AC in the living room and the bedroom.

I needed to pee so I headed to the bathroom. After I was done, she was lying on the bed. I set with her and we started kissing and touching and groping each other. Then she asked me to play some music. Very wise. 

I opened my Mac and played some jazz music on youtube. 

We took shower, returned to bed and snuggled under the bedsheets.

I removed the shower robe and got her fully naked. She asked me if I have the medicine. I told her.... mmm we can buy tomorrow. She laughed.

I tried to finger her but she declined, few minutes later I realized why.

I started fucking for about 3-4 minute before unloading inside of her.

But the moment I pulled out, blood started gushing out like river, and she immediate put her hand to stop it from falling on the sheet.

After we got cleaned up, I went outside to buy some groceries. When I returned, she cleaned the entire kitchen and prepared an appetizer from whatever she could find in my fridge.

Later her brother called asked if her sister is with her friends. I didn't know what he meant but I let her talk to him and she told him she will be back in an hour.

We fucked again and an hour later and a half later, she got dressed and I took her back exactly where I picked her from.

He was sitting exactly where we left him.

I bid them farewell and disappeared into the night.

Field Report (17/9) - First Indoor Sets of Two

Since I reduced my caffeine intake 8 days ago, my energy levels dropped quite dramatically, along with motivation. 

But the good part is, approaching become significantly easier! Set of 1, 2, a girl inside a shop. I don't care! I just go in and open. It's like that weasel in me has been tranqualized.

Anyway, after a long period of indiscipline, I decided to return to doing 30 sets a week, which is more sustainable than doing daily single sets or doing large number of sets.

Today, managed to squeeze in 6 sets. I wanted to do more, but I was too fatigued due to the withdrawal from caffeine.

Girl 1:

 - Indonesian, 30s. Reacted nicely, but immediately mentioned meeting her husband so I ejected gracefully

Girl 2:

 - Short girl, dressed casually. Wore pink top. Didn't stop. She didn't seem interested at all. Possibly not in good mood, or of poor temperament.

Girl 2 (set of 2):

 - 2 pretty girls. Chinese mostly likely. I approach them from the side and immediately opened them but fixated my eyes on the one closer to me. Both of them stopped to listen, and the one closer seemed curious. But before I complete my opener, the other one immediately cockblocked me and said something to her friend to eject. 

The thing I noticed is that, the moment I broke eye contact with the girl on the left to look at the other one, that's when the cockblocking happened. Interesting. This was the first sets of 2 I did indoor (mall). 

Girl 4:

 - A Chinese. Wore white outfit. I had to do a lot of waving to get her attention as she was wearing ear buds. She spoke good English with decent accent. Few seconds into the set and realized in my guts she had zero interest. Despite my opener, she asked me twice if I needed something. The place was a bit loud too so maybe that made comms harder. Convo was dry and boring, she was so dull. Went for the close anyway but, needless to say, she wasn't up for it

I forgot the other sets as they were too insignificant.

July Week 1 Review: A New Chapter

Writing this post at 7% battery life, at a coffee shop. So, I will be as concise as I can.

July started slowly. No approaches on Monday, and only 1 in Tuesday. 

That left me with 29 sets to do to meet my min 30 sets a week quota. 

But then, I had to hit the road on Friday for 3 day trip to Perak, a place that's been on my bucket list for so long. So I was forced to do 29 sets in 2 days... and I did just that. It was stressful... I hated it... it was rushed... but I'm glad I did it. The result was not bad.

I got 1 IG, and 2 numbers. All of them responded.

The IG lead, a slightly curvy thai girl, was the best set. I've been to thailand countless times so it was easy talking to her. Shows the more you have in common with a girl, the better are your chances with her.

We chatted a bit on IG, but sadly, she is taken so I let go of her. 

The other memorable set is a Sarawakan chiropractor. Our interaction was a bit awkward, and I wasn't on my best form that day. But managed to close her. She accidentally video called me after I sent my first text. We are still texting. She is not investing much, but became a bit warmed up after I shared photos of my holiday with her  (including a cocktail I was having) last night. We were texting past midnight, something I never done with any lead before. She was probably in her bed, wearing her lingerie while playing with her phone after a long day at work.

3%... time to charge my old Samsung

Stats:

30 approaches

3 numbers (including IG)

3 replies

1 active lead

    A 200 years old abandoned house in a small villiage at Perak, fully claimed by mother nature

June Week 4 Review: Never Ask A Girl What She Does

A decent week so far with few firsts. I got my first number from a supermarket approach that happened naturally, the first reply from an IG lead, and, probably, the first time that I did > 30 sets a week for 2 week streak. 

Nonetheless, I still couldn't get a date this week, I was supposed to have a date on Friday with the Thai girl from last week (who messaged me mid week to meet up) but it didn't happen due to bad logistics. 

Game-wise, I can see some development in my gaming style that is creating better reactions from girls. I'm focusing less on what to say (stacking, teasing, etc) and more on the energy that I deliver during the first few seconds of a set. Nonetheless, I see few issues that popped up this week and some lingering issues that I still need to fix once and for all.

The good:

• Increased in spontaneity. I see a hot girl outside a session (and she is by herself), I don't hesitate to approach
• I stopped relying on my standard "job" stacking, and instead stack on other things that are more personal and unique to her, e.g. her nationality, outfit, etc. Though, sometimes forget and regress.
• I put more energy and focus in how I stop the girl. I stopped using "excuse me" and replaced it with a strong audible "Hey" accompanied by a hand wave (in case she is wearing a earphones). I can't say if it's more effective than the older approach, but it certainly makes me feel better (and more masculine) than when I say excuse me.
• My texting style has improved a bit and starting to mature. In the past, I was quite uncertain on what to say or how to respond to certain text. Now, starting to get a glimpse on what works and what doesn't
• Starting to get really good in observing girls and preparing stack topic

The bad:

• Even though I stack less on job, I occasionally slip back to my old habit and ask a girl what she does or guess it. 
• After listening to some of my recorded sets, noticed that my conversation overlaps with the girl's. Can't believe this is still happening. I thought I fixed it issue. Need to pay more attention to this as it's very problematic
• Also after listening to my recording, noticed that I say "yeah" after I finish my sentence. Another thing to fix
• I'm occasionally making the silly mistake of trying to game a girl over text. I did so on a girl who wasn't investing much, and needless to say, she is gone. But in a way, can't blame myself as I'm yet to figure out how to deal with girls that give very short responses that are hard to work with, or girls that don't invest at all or ask questions.
• While not critical in building attraction, my conversation skills still need polishing. Something to work on both in field and out of it
• I need to spend some time preparing stories & stacking material about many things: countries, places, food, pop culture, etc so I can related better with girls

Memorable sets:

Ukrainian expat 

Saw her buy a Macha in the venue, and approached her outside the mall. She was wearing tight green pant and had a great figure which couldn't escape my radar. But when opened her, realized she looked a bit older up close. Possibly mid-thirties. 

I teased her on how her drink and her outfit of the same color. She didn't seem very keen at first, and I made the mistake of lying of being a traveler (projecting myself as r-selected). 

Convo-wise, I couldn't stack on Ukraine, cus I don't know much about the country. I need to do my homework on this. After I closed her, she started asking me K-selected questions: how long you gonna be here? Do you like it here? etc.

Salesforce girl

I was quite hesitant to approach this one as, for a second, thought she was a ladyboy as she had noticeably broad shoulders. But she was damn hot, so I took my chances and opened her inside the mall. She hooked quite nicely and was very friendly. Told her she look like she just came from a nice party. She said she was hanging out with friends. 

Though I liked her vibe, I felt something was off. There was a masculine undertone in how she communicated. And that become quickly apparent as the conversation suddenly become about our work. But, in a way, I don't blame her as I should've avoided talking about jobs (at all cost) and make the convo fully or mostly about her, her outfit, where she is from, etc

Kazakh girl

My favorite set of the week, and 2nd set that felt like "man to women". Prior to approaching her, I got few girls that didn't stop when I approach them with "excuse me", I got frustrated and decided go approach more assertively with a strong "Hey!" I did so with the this girl and at first she looked a bit startled, but I as I shifted my energy to a warm opener. 

She responded well. Asked her where she is from and she smiled and told me to guess. My eyes were locked on hers, but through my peripheral vision, I could see so much activity going on down below. She was crossing and uncrossing her legs, tilting her hips left and right.

I kinda of blanked out mid-set, but managed to close. Asked for her Whatsapp, but she said she smiled (looked a way) and said she doesn't use it. (probably lying). Then I settled for IG.

Texted her the following day and she was quite responsive. We decided to meet after she return from a short trip. She will be in KL for another week so I'm in a race against time with this one.

Siberian girl

A very interesting set. I saw her walk into Parkson department store, where I approached her. She was quite calm and comfortable with how close I was to her. We had brief chat on our countries, but somewhere in set, she started losing interest.

Then I dropped the dookie. I haven't listened to the recording yet, but if I recall, here is what happened next.

I asked her "what do you do?" She looked at me with narrow eyes "Why? Why do you asking me that?" I was quite shocked at how blunt she was. But then, I remembered some story that Mark Manson mentioned in one of his books in which a Russian girl he was dating said (in response to something he said) that it was "stupid" and he almost spat his drink.

I didn't know how to react, so I just told her, it's not out of the ordinary that people in Malaysia ask strangers what they do. And asserted that it could be inappropriate in Russia, but not necessarily in other parts of the world.

She wanted to leave earlier. So I insisted on closing. "ah... you are so persistent". Eventually she opened her WA and I copied the number.

Stats (24 - 28 June):

30 Approaches

4 numbers

1 IG

3 replies

0 dates

2 active leads

June Week 3 Review: New City, Old Sticking Points

A lot of development took place this June. I've moved from Petaling Jaya (where I've been living for ages) to the heart of KL city.

The relocation has brought along so much opportunities: shorter travel time, a lot of venues to choose from, diverse demographics, abundance of hot chicks, etc.

However, while I was able to triple the number of approaches compare to what I used to deliver back in PJ, my game still remained stagnant.

I've done 72 approaches since the beginning of June, and I couldn't get any of the girls out on a date yet, except one

Venturing into the Desert: Versatile Cold Approach Experiment

My daygame have been quite rigid since I've started in 2020. I've been approaching girls only during sessions and in specific venues or routes. 

But I've come to realize that such way of doing daygame limits my opportunities of meeting infinite number of beautiful women everywhere else, in shops, gas stations, cafes, trains, etc.

So, I've decided to change this and do cold approaching in a spontaneous fashion.

Bukit Bintang weekend stay & field report

I've been doing most of my weekend daygame sessions in KL due to the high volume of quality targets. But the problem I'm facing is that... I start my day quite slowly.

I wake up around 8 am, super sluggish. It takes me 1-2 cups of coffee to come to life, and I find myself watching random stuff on YT and only leave my house 4-5 hours later.

I don't like that. So I decided to leave my house earlier on weekends. I thought it's a good idea if I stay the night closer to where I game, perhaps in a place that is not as comfortable as my house so I'm forced to go out as soon as I freshen up.

So I booked a place in Bukit Bintang (which is closer to many large malls) this Saturday.

A cheap hostel (RM 24), needless to say, it was a shitty place, and I had to check out earlier due to not being able to sleep at night, thanks to faulty AC and a crazy Arab guy in the bunk bed below who was complaining about every noise and movement I was making, e.g. random phone ringing in the middle of the night and he opened my curtain "excuse me bradar! can you bleeze make your phone on silence?"

Other than the horrible sweaty night stay, I had a decent daygame session on Saturday:

12 approaches in total.

4 numbers, 3 from very weak sets. And 1 from a hot skinny Botswana girl with long braided hair (an extension) which was the best set of the day.

Texted her today and we agreed to meet next Saturday.

I've also recorded my session (about 6 hours), something that I've been quite lazy to do for a while, but it's time to listen to myself and see how far I came and what to improve (vocally and material-wise).

Apart from infields, I'm currently reading Daygame Nitro by Nick Krauser. A book that I've, surprisingly, never read before. I remember reading Daygame Mastery which was too much theory for me. Nitro seems more straight to the point. A the book that I should've dove into in my early days of pickup when I was as clueless as a goldfish.

Why I'm I ready this book? because, (1) although I practice LDM, my cold approach style is quite different from most other daygamers, and I need to make sure that what makes me unique doesn't derail me from the fundamentals of pickup/seduction, and (2) I don't yet have a full mature structure from approach to sex to build enough confidence on dates, or at least always know what to do next.

It's 2:50 pm now, I just came from the supermarket near my house, where I saw a cute petite girl who was IOIing me as I was waiting for her to check out from the cashier. After finishing, she left the cashier and disappeared. I checked out and exited the mart only to see her coming back from nowhere (she was definitely waiting for me). I let her pass, I followed her, and she kept looking back 3 times and smiling. After exiting the entrance of the mall, she stopped and I approached her. "how come you are not carrying a bag", "you must be very strong carrying those items". She was smiling and was a bit confused and shy. Before she even warmed up, I heard a loud "beep beep" and looked there, there is a big-ass pickup truck waiting by the taxi stop, she rushed and got into the car. Most likely her man (or her brother).

First approach of the day.

It's 2:12pm now (Sunday), and I'm off to another adventure in KL!

Cheers

#3 - The Talkative Maniac

Being in the right place at the right time can expose you to pleasant (and sometimes weird) experiences.

That's what happened to me one Friday last September. I finished work and battled with myself over whether I should hit the mall, do some sets, or just call it a day and head home.

I decided to go to the mall.

The first girl I approached was a Chinese expat who turned out to be a master's student. After I got her number, I continued strolling in the mall, then I spotted another girl. She was wearing jean shorts and a crop top T-shirt reading "Alice in Wonderland" while holding a brown jacket (probably due to the cold train).

Daygame Lessons from 2023

2023 wasn't quite a productive year in terms of daygaming, but I've learned quite a lot about myself and my daygame skills, and I'm writing about some of what I've discovered or observed.

LESSON 1: Long-term relationships can seriously affect your game progress

The biggest thing I've learned this year is that long-term relationships will easily hamper your progress if you aren't careful. It's one thing to date a girl, enjoy her company, the amazing sex, the good experience, but it's another thing to become emotionally attached to her to the degree that you prioritize her over your schedule (daygame, gym, etc).

Unfortunately, that's what I kinda did during my one-year-long relationship with a girl I met while daygaming. She never stood in my way, but she was so kind, so nice to me that I couldn't help but fall (a little bit) for her, as she did for me. Love.

I nonetheless never stopped daygaming, as our relationship wasn't too serious. However, my game drive and desire to hit the malls waned to the degree that I was going weeks without approaching.

But then, we broke up. A year later. And I was back single.

I was relieved, in a way, as now I had more time to focus on my bachelor pursuits, including daygame.

However, after returning to regular gaming, I saw a significant drop in results, compared to early 2022 (when I was dating 2-3 girls a month). What happened throughout 2023?

LESSON 2: Pay attention to your facial expressions


When I started daygame in 2020, everyone was masked up until the end of 2022. So basically, 90% of my daygame journey took place during a period of religiously practiced covid restrictions.

Surprisingly, self-fist pump, I managed to adapt to such unusual circumstances and game well enough to get results and lays.

But after covid cases dropped, and restrictions lifted, I found myself walking around in malls, mask-free. I was able to breathe better. But I kinda felt (exposed), as if I'm naked. That, nonetheless, didn't stop me from doing sets.

However, I noticed a major decline in the quality of numbers and dates. Numbers were either flaking or ghosting. Dates were... almost nonexistent, except for one with a Christian girl who wasn't interested in sex before marriage but was courteous enough to ask me out for dinner (to return the favor of paying for dinner on the first date).

The struggle continued for over 6 months, many approaches, several numbers, few replies, and only one date. Not really any daygamer's dream.

So the question is, how did it get to that?

My best guess is that the mask(s) I was wearing for almost 2 years were concealing my facial expressions, and that may have created a sense of mystery to my persona, as they can't read me by looking at my face.

That, in conjunction with hard work and improving calibration, had made me attractive enough to some of the girls I ran into.

But once the mask was off, they started seeing flaws that I wasn't aware of. It could be a fake smile, a nervous expression, or maybe a crooked nose 😂.

Though it's mostly likely due to my facial expressions not being incongruent with what I was saying or doing. Even if I was ugly (which I'm not), it wouldn't explain the unreasonable drop in results even with less attractive sets.

One thing I'm sure guilty of, though, is that I smile a lot both out of nervousness and also as a strategy to come off as friendly.

And sadly, it has carried over to my daygame. My strategy to get a girl to like me has become trying to appear as friendly as I can, through a smile and other means.

Smiling is an important element of seduction, but when it's used as a crutch or a tool, it often comes off as uncalibrated, insincere, or an expression of low value.

Something to work on!

LESSON 3: Your vibe is your most important asset

I can't emphasise this one enough. If you are happy, people will sense it. If you are stressed out, people will sense it. If you are exhausted, people will sense it. And no matter how hard you work, if you neglect your mental health, physical well-being, it will not only limit your progress in daygame but every aspect of life.

How to create and maintain a good vibe?

For me, good vibe is synonymous with happiness, it doesn't come from nothing. Just like numbers, dates, and lays, it is a byproduct of leading a life of  BEING TRUE TO YOURSELF and WORKING HARD to maintain that identity. 

How do you stay true to yourself?

1. Never shy away from expressing your desires and wants both to yourself and to people:

• Buy that car that you dreamt of that moment you can afford it
• Ask for that salary increment that you deserved
• When daygaming, before you open your mouth, make sure that your set sees it in your eyes that you wanna fuck her. And keep that intention alive until you finish inside her.

2. Never break a promise you made to yourself or to others

• If you decide to approach 100 girls this month, make sure that you fight tooth and nail to make that happen
• If you promised someone or group of people of something (dinner, event, etc), make it happen at all cost, unless you in a hospital or totally incapacitated 

3. Never do something that will make you feel bad about yourself or self-worth

• As per above, don't break promises you made to yourself as that will make you feel unreliable
• Don't abuse alcohol, drugs or anything that will make you destroy the identity you worked hard to build
• Prioritise your schedule and lifestyle over others as much as you can, or compromise without given away too much of your time

Cheers.

#2 - The Adorable Chinese

I met May in 2022, back when I was doing a nonstop daily game streak. She was average looking Chinese girl with a very good vibe and and a charming smile that radiated through her mask. 

When I approached her in a mall somewhere in PJ, and told her "she look lovely", she blushed and responded with a friendly "Thank you". Like any of my other sets, we chatted about several things, mainly work and travelling. She told me she was studying in Taiwan for 4 years, and return home last month... 

The Daygame Goals That Led Me To Nowhere

I don't know why I didn't get much result in the past year. But one thing I know for sure is that I took the fun out of gaming.

By focusing on the wrong things... numbers, stats, commitments, habits, etc

Thanks to too much indulgence in theory and self-help materials.